Used them for the first time today for a friend bought 100 tubes & tobacco for about .25c per cigarette using their wicked cool machine that rolls the cigarette's for you. I will definitely do this again as it was really easy and saved my friend a significant amount of money for what I think is a superior tobacco product. The machine takes 8 minutes to make 100 cigarettes, the time is in the human putting the completed cigarette in the carton! I shake and am not manually dexterous so it took me a bit longer than the average bear to pack the carton but over all a great experience.